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		<title>By: Barb, sfo</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb, sfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right--you never know what God might have in mind.  I'm glad it's beginning to turn around and you have made peace with the pastor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right&#8211;you never know what God might have in mind.  I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s beginning to turn around and you have made peace with the pastor.</p>
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		<title>By: RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Barb.  I suspect that with all my web remodeling an old pub or two may have gotten re-published.  Thanks for the prayers.  The issues have not gone but, we are staying put for now.  About the time of this, I remember thinking about the Benedictine vow of stability and how that is a good thing.  Besides, maybe we can have an influence.  In the time since, we have really grown to appreciate the pastor and we have done some things for welcoming.  So things are OK - not ideal but OK (and we really have come to like the pastor).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not sure why God wants us here right now, but His will be done.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Again - thanks for the prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Barb.  I suspect that with all my web remodeling an old pub or two may have gotten re-published.  Thanks for the prayers.  The issues have not gone but, we are staying put for now.  About the time of this, I remember thinking about the Benedictine vow of stability and how that is a good thing.  Besides, maybe we can have an influence.  In the time since, we have really grown to appreciate the pastor and we have done some things for welcoming.  So things are OK - not ideal but OK (and we really have come to like the pastor).</p>
<p>Not sure why God wants us here right now, but His will be done.</p>
<p>Again - thanks for the prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb, sfo</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb, sfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason this popped up on my bloglines now.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Go to my blog and search on the term "school" and you will see how my family went through this same thing over the past year and a half.  And now--we're "settling."  Because there's no other choice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don't know how things are going with you &#038; your parish and school right now--but I will pray that your family has prayed your way to a decision that will bring you all closer to God and happier too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason this popped up on my bloglines now.</p>
<p>Go to my blog and search on the term &#8220;school&#8221; and you will see how my family went through this same thing over the past year and a half.  And now&#8211;we&#8217;re &#8220;settling.&#8221;  Because there&#8217;s no other choice.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how things are going with you &#038; your parish and school right now&#8211;but I will pray that your family has prayed your way to a decision that will bring you all closer to God and happier too.</p>
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		<title>By: RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the advice MB!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am/will continue to pray for guidance.  The family is going to go through a period of discernment of what is best.  I will speak when the time is right.  Thanks for all of the advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the advice MB!</p>
<p>I am/will continue to pray for guidance.  The family is going to go through a period of discernment of what is best.  I will speak when the time is right.  Thanks for all of the advice!</p>
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		<title>By: Moneybags</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moneybags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would definitely talk with the priest.  Above all, pray about this before the Blessed Sacrament.  You will be given the words you need when you need them from the Spirit on High.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would definitely talk with the priest.  Above all, pray about this before the Blessed Sacrament.  You will be given the words you need when you need them from the Spirit on High.</p>
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		<title>By: RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, UKOK &#038; Adoro!&lt;br/&gt;I appreciate the help (and the prayers).  I am seeing a picture emerge and think I have a plan.  I do like this priest - and I owe it to him to talk with him.  I am going to pray on how best to bring this to him, and do so some time after our baby is born.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Adoro, thanks for the book reco.  I'll check it out. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have also asked the advice of a priest friend of mine across the country.  I am hoping he might provide insight as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, UKOK &#038; Adoro!<br />I appreciate the help (and the prayers).  I am seeing a picture emerge and think I have a plan.  I do like this priest - and I owe it to him to talk with him.  I am going to pray on how best to bring this to him, and do so some time after our baby is born.</p>
<p>Adoro, thanks for the book reco.  I&#8217;ll check it out. </p>
<p>I have also asked the advice of a priest friend of mine across the country.  I am hoping he might provide insight as well.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Adoro Te Devote</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Adoro Te Devote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, a couple thoughts. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My first instinct would be to "jump ship" (thanks ironic catholic, great term), and make sure the priest knew why...copy a letter to the bishop.  It seems that this is a situation that should not remain at that parish and SOMEONE needs to be made aware of it.  You likely aren't the only person to feel this way about the parish.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Next...well, I'd recommend reading, if you haven't already, a book by Fr. Mitch Pacwa called, "Father Forgive me for I am Frustrated."  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And then finally, the advice I recieved this summer from Mother Assumpta:  Do what you can do.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe the best thing is to leave, but if you do so, you still have a responsibility to inform the appropriate parties as to the WHY of your decision.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And Pray. That's the best thing.  Always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, a couple thoughts. </p>
<p>My first instinct would be to &#8220;jump ship&#8221; (thanks ironic catholic, great term), and make sure the priest knew why&#8230;copy a letter to the bishop.  It seems that this is a situation that should not remain at that parish and SOMEONE needs to be made aware of it.  You likely aren&#8217;t the only person to feel this way about the parish.  </p>
<p>Next&#8230;well, I&#8217;d recommend reading, if you haven&#8217;t already, a book by Fr. Mitch Pacwa called, &#8220;Father Forgive me for I am Frustrated.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And then finally, the advice I recieved this summer from Mother Assumpta:  Do what you can do.  </p>
<p>Maybe the best thing is to leave, but if you do so, you still have a responsibility to inform the appropriate parties as to the WHY of your decision.  </p>
<p>And Pray. That&#8217;s the best thing.  Always.</p>
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		<title>By: ukok</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>ukok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, it does sound like you're in a bit of a quandry.  It's that old dilemma about working on the problem from the inside or moving on and either forgetting about it or hoping sokmeone else will deal with it.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Could you write to the Dean about the problems you are experiencing and your parish priests bias?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think I'd have to try to do something about it before I looked to worship elsewhere.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The parish priest is the pastor of the entire flock, not just his best buddy in the congregation.  Some priests are better at 'pastoring' than others, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't ever be corrected.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would ask for a personal meeting with the priest.  Express your concerns and ask what he is going to do about your concerns, if nothing comes of it, start climbing the rungs of the Clergy ladder until someone listens to you.  You can't be the only one that this situation is upsetting or affecting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Praying for your situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, it does sound like you&#8217;re in a bit of a quandry.  It&#8217;s that old dilemma about working on the problem from the inside or moving on and either forgetting about it or hoping sokmeone else will deal with it.  </p>
<p>Could you write to the Dean about the problems you are experiencing and your parish priests bias?</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d have to try to do something about it before I looked to worship elsewhere.</p>
<p>The parish priest is the pastor of the entire flock, not just his best buddy in the congregation.  Some priests are better at &#8216;pastoring&#8217; than others, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they shouldn&#8217;t ever be corrected.  </p>
<p>I would ask for a personal meeting with the priest.  Express your concerns and ask what he is going to do about your concerns, if nothing comes of it, start climbing the rungs of the Clergy ladder until someone listens to you.  You can&#8217;t be the only one that this situation is upsetting or affecting.</p>
<p>Praying for your situation.</p>
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		<title>By: RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2006/10/09/advice-wanted/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks IC &#038; Amber,&lt;br/&gt;The perspectives are very helpful.  My wife is in the same boat, and the kids are open to the change.  The hardest part is that I have connected with two people there, and since my wife is teacher - she has connected with a lot of the kids and parents.  But this is throught the school, not the parish.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If we change, the transition will take months as the kids need to finish the school year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We are going to pray.  I am still not sure about talking to my priest.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Any other advice is definitely welcome (Jerry, thanks for the email).&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!&lt;br/&gt;Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks IC &#038; Amber,<br />The perspectives are very helpful.  My wife is in the same boat, and the kids are open to the change.  The hardest part is that I have connected with two people there, and since my wife is teacher - she has connected with a lot of the kids and parents.  But this is throught the school, not the parish.</p>
<p>If we change, the transition will take months as the kids need to finish the school year.</p>
<p>We are going to pray.  I am still not sure about talking to my priest.</p>
<p>Any other advice is definitely welcome (Jerry, thanks for the email).<br />Thanks!<br />Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is easy for me... I'm converting and I've had to leave EVERYTHING... to go where God wants me to go and to GROW... I know the fear in uprooting children but at the same time, we must trust the Lord... and your children may end up thanking you for the refreshing change.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is it healthy for your family's spiritual growth to attend the parish you've invested your time in?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Often change, though we dislike it, brings about exactly what we need for growth in many areas of our lives.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your family (especially your kids) will be much happier in a place where the community is strong and friendly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why prolong the frustration and misery? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would continue to pray for the church, but I would definitely find a new place to call home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is easy for me&#8230; I&#8217;m converting and I&#8217;ve had to leave EVERYTHING&#8230; to go where God wants me to go and to GROW&#8230; I know the fear in uprooting children but at the same time, we must trust the Lord&#8230; and your children may end up thanking you for the refreshing change.</p>
<p>Is it healthy for your family&#8217;s spiritual growth to attend the parish you&#8217;ve invested your time in?</p>
<p>Often change, though we dislike it, brings about exactly what we need for growth in many areas of our lives.</p>
<p>Your family (especially your kids) will be much happier in a place where the community is strong and friendly.</p>
<p>Why prolong the frustration and misery? </p>
<p>I would continue to pray for the church, but I would definitely find a new place to call home.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ironic Catholic</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ironic Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does your wife want?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And kids?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It sure sounds like you want to jump ship, and for some valid reasons.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If they more or less agree, I'd do it.  It's important to stick with community and work through differences, but you make it sounds intractable.  Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does your wife want?</p>
<p>And kids?</p>
<p>It sure sounds like you want to jump ship, and for some valid reasons.</p>
<p>If they more or less agree, I&#8217;d do it.  It&#8217;s important to stick with community and work through differences, but you make it sounds intractable.  Best wishes.</p>
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