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	<description>"Lord Have Mercy" -  Thoughts &#38; images from a Catholic dad's perspective.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thank God For Gianna Jessen by EMMA T CAMARA</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/11/11/thank-god-for-gianna-jessen/#comment-5659</link>
		<dc:creator>EMMA T CAMARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRAISE GOD FOR GIANNA JESSEN.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Vegas Parish Donations by Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Vegas Parish Donations by Friend in NY</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/11/20/vegas-parish-donations/#comment-5444</link>
		<dc:creator>Friend in NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA!  Miss you much.  Our guy/party didn't win, keep the prayers going though. USC - where's the love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA!  Miss you much.  Our guy/party didn&#8217;t win, keep the prayers going though. USC - where&#8217;s the love?</p>
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		<title>Comment on So Starts The Abortion Presidency by Justin Stroh</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/11/11/so-starts-the-abortion-presidency/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Stroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a story about the election night set to an original song STOP!  Stop Abortion!  Defeat FOCA!

http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=1762 

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a story about the election night set to an original song STOP!  Stop Abortion!  Defeat FOCA!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=1762" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=1762</a> </p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pray for this Obama-nation by jackie parkes</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/11/05/pray-for-this-obama-nation/#comment-5086</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie parkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will pray!</description>
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		<title>Comment on How Many Bishops Does It Take To Convince A Catholic by Raulito</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/10/29/how-many-bishops-does-it-take-to-convince-a-catholic/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>Raulito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They've nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide.  I am not sure at this point can excuse their, that is, Catholics for Obama, ignorance on this issue.  It boggles the mind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide.  I am not sure at this point can excuse their, that is, Catholics for Obama, ignorance on this issue.  It boggles the mind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deciding Over Ourselves - Reply to Dutch by R.M. Schultz</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/10/24/deciding-over-ourselves/#comment-4942</link>
		<dc:creator>R.M. Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Rob:

 It’s been several days since you posted your reply to me and I’ve been thinking things over. I was hoping to come up with something new, some way of making my position clear, since it seems we are talking past each other, not really connecting. Please find my reply here.

http://festungarnulfinger.blogspot.com/2008/10/answer-to-my-friend-rob.html

Yours For A Better World — Dutch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rob:</p>
<p> It’s been several days since you posted your reply to me and I’ve been thinking things over. I was hoping to come up with something new, some way of making my position clear, since it seems we are talking past each other, not really connecting. Please find my reply here.</p>
<p><a href="http://festungarnulfinger.blogspot.com/2008/10/answer-to-my-friend-rob.html" rel="nofollow">http://festungarnulfinger.blogspot.com/2008/10/answer-to-my-friend-rob.html</a></p>
<p>Yours For A Better World — Dutch</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deciding Over Ourselves - Reply to Dutch by Jay Anderson</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/10/24/deciding-over-ourselves/#comment-4908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Rob!</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Real Difference Between Obama And McCain by RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/10/21/a-real-difference-between-obama-and-mccain/#comment-4727</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dutch, we are instructed to correct our brothers who are in error.  You my friend are in error.  Your facts are wrong too.  A recent survey shows that only 40% favor abortion in first term without restriction.  You are just wrong - it is not the overwhelming majority.  60% want far more restrictions.

What is worse is than the factual error is that you are supporting unadulterated evil.  This is the worst candidate ever presented on the most important issues, and you want to give him a pass.  I am sorry, brother, but you are on the wrong path here - and you are working for those who would do evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dutch, we are instructed to correct our brothers who are in error.  You my friend are in error.  Your facts are wrong too.  A recent survey shows that only 40% favor abortion in first term without restriction.  You are just wrong - it is not the overwhelming majority.  60% want far more restrictions.</p>
<p>What is worse is than the factual error is that you are supporting unadulterated evil.  This is the worst candidate ever presented on the most important issues, and you want to give him a pass.  I am sorry, brother, but you are on the wrong path here - and you are working for those who would do evil.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Real Difference Between Obama And McCain by RobK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dutchman,
You are wrong, and deep down I think you know it.  Three many problems with your argument.  Here are a few:

Your quote about Republican justices is irrelevant.  It isn't about the party, it is about whether the justices are pro-life or not.  Only one more justice is needed to overturn the evil that was done in 1972.  The next president is likely to nominate up to 3 justices - all pro-abortion replacements.
Both Obama and McCain acknowledge that abortion hangs in the balance.  That you disagree says a lot about you.

Two, there is more to abortion and life issues than the court.  Obama would pass FOCA - a law that would eliminate all state restrictions on abortion.  He would also provide funding in foreign countries for abortion (not done currently).  He also favors paying for abortions with tax dollars.  There is a lot at stake here.  You just want to stick your head in the sand.

Three, Obama is a liar.  He will say anything to get elected.  The war will not end sooner because of him, the economy won't get better because of him.  All a vote for Obama does is extend evil.

Finally, just as I could never vote for a pro-slavery candidate, I can never vote for a pro-abortion candidate.  It does not matter what others say.  Right and wrong are not issues for voting.  

I for one will not stand with evil and seek inadequate arguments to justify it.  I wish you would turn from doing that - but you are the one who has to live with your choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dutchman,<br />
You are wrong, and deep down I think you know it.  Three many problems with your argument.  Here are a few:</p>
<p>Your quote about Republican justices is irrelevant.  It isn&#8217;t about the party, it is about whether the justices are pro-life or not.  Only one more justice is needed to overturn the evil that was done in 1972.  The next president is likely to nominate up to 3 justices - all pro-abortion replacements.<br />
Both Obama and McCain acknowledge that abortion hangs in the balance.  That you disagree says a lot about you.</p>
<p>Two, there is more to abortion and life issues than the court.  Obama would pass FOCA - a law that would eliminate all state restrictions on abortion.  He would also provide funding in foreign countries for abortion (not done currently).  He also favors paying for abortions with tax dollars.  There is a lot at stake here.  You just want to stick your head in the sand.</p>
<p>Three, Obama is a liar.  He will say anything to get elected.  The war will not end sooner because of him, the economy won&#8217;t get better because of him.  All a vote for Obama does is extend evil.</p>
<p>Finally, just as I could never vote for a pro-slavery candidate, I can never vote for a pro-abortion candidate.  It does not matter what others say.  Right and wrong are not issues for voting.  </p>
<p>I for one will not stand with evil and seek inadequate arguments to justify it.  I wish you would turn from doing that - but you are the one who has to live with your choices.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Real Difference Between Obama And McCain by R.M. Schultz</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/10/21/a-real-difference-between-obama-and-mccain/#comment-4701</link>
		<dc:creator>R.M. Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roe v. Wade gave us the most liberal abortion laws in the world and it would take the Supreme Court to overturn it.  
The Republicans have controlled the court continuously since 1969.  It was a 5-4 Republican court that put over Roe v. Wade and the court has a 7-2 Republican majority now.  Do you really expect me to believe that one or two more Republican justices would make any difference?  Republicans can read opinion polls just as well as anybody, and they know an overwhelming majority of Americans (about 65%) support legal first term abortion. They are no more likely to criminalize abortion than they are to bring back Prohibition.

Abortion won't change no matter who you vote for, but if you want more war, then McCain's your man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roe v. Wade gave us the most liberal abortion laws in the world and it would take the Supreme Court to overturn it.<br />
The Republicans have controlled the court continuously since 1969.  It was a 5-4 Republican court that put over Roe v. Wade and the court has a 7-2 Republican majority now.  Do you really expect me to believe that one or two more Republican justices would make any difference?  Republicans can read opinion polls just as well as anybody, and they know an overwhelming majority of Americans (about 65%) support legal first term abortion. They are no more likely to criminalize abortion than they are to bring back Prohibition.</p>
<p>Abortion won&#8217;t change no matter who you vote for, but if you want more war, then McCain&#8217;s your man!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two Wrongs Don&#8217;t Make A Right by Trent L Mosley</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/01/08/two-wrongs-dont-make-a-right/#comment-4453</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent L Mosley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess people think that God is not going to hold them accountable for their actions. They think that God is not going to have them reap what they sowed by voting for murders of children. I'm a black man who will never again  vote for any person who would support murdering the innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess people think that God is not going to hold them accountable for their actions. They think that God is not going to have them reap what they sowed by voting for murders of children. I&#8217;m a black man who will never again  vote for any person who would support murdering the innocent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Next President And Abortion by Barb Szyszkiewicz, sfo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb Szyszkiewicz, sfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly right!  This is the HUMAN RIGHTS CRISIS of our day.
If you decide that one person or type of persons is expendable, you start down a very, very bad path--and this country is ON it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right!  This is the HUMAN RIGHTS CRISIS of our day.<br />
If you decide that one person or type of persons is expendable, you start down a very, very bad path&#8211;and this country is ON it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Now Is The Time To Praise God by RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/25/time-to-praise-god/#comment-3971</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, that is exactly where I am at...most of the time. :)
I have to constantly remind myself, but just today my wife and I were talking about how no matter what happens, it will be alright.  We simply must act in faith and rely on the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, that is exactly where I am at&#8230;most of the time. <img src='http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I have to constantly remind myself, but just today my wife and I were talking about how no matter what happens, it will be alright.  We simply must act in faith and rely on the Lord.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Now Is The Time To Praise God by Julie</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/25/time-to-praise-god/#comment-3969</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and thank you!  

God is amazing, and we really need to learn trust.  I recently got done writing a paper about the historical background of Isaiah.  God's scourge comes from our own false alliances;  when we trust in Him, yes we may suffer, but He is present and that suffering is purifying. But He will leave us to our own devices if we reject His call to remain close to him, no matter what comes our way. 

I'm fully prepared to lose my house, to lose everything. And it's OK, because my credit rating isn't something that comes with me to eternity. (Um...I DO hope I won't lose the roof over my head...or not be able to pay debt...not trying to be irresponsible!)  In all things, God is good, and I'd rather have nothing but the clothes on my back and love God, than have all the riches of the world...and be empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and thank you!  </p>
<p>God is amazing, and we really need to learn trust.  I recently got done writing a paper about the historical background of Isaiah.  God&#8217;s scourge comes from our own false alliances;  when we trust in Him, yes we may suffer, but He is present and that suffering is purifying. But He will leave us to our own devices if we reject His call to remain close to him, no matter what comes our way. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fully prepared to lose my house, to lose everything. And it&#8217;s OK, because my credit rating isn&#8217;t something that comes with me to eternity. (Um&#8230;I DO hope I won&#8217;t lose the roof over my head&#8230;or not be able to pay debt&#8230;not trying to be irresponsible!)  In all things, God is good, and I&#8217;d rather have nothing but the clothes on my back and love God, than have all the riches of the world&#8230;and be empty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catholics Against Joe Biden by Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMA = BETRAYAL
Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.
Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.
Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.
McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.
You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he's still a traitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMA = BETRAYAL<br />
Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.<br />
Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.<br />
Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.<br />
McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.<br />
You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he&#8217;s still a traitor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 18 Tips For Dads (and what is missing) by First time Father</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/08/05/18-tips-for-dads-and-what-is-missing/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>First time Father</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fathers are known to be the king of the house. They implement rules and listen to children. It is also important that they build a good relationship. The tips for dads is very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fathers are known to be the king of the house. They implement rules and listen to children. It is also important that they build a good relationship. The tips for dads is very helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Names Part II: What Do You Mean By Progress? by Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part III: A Dissident By Any Other Name&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/18/names-part-ii-what-do-you-mean-progress/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part III: A Dissident By Any Other Name&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussed the term &#8220;choice&#8221; as used by abortion proponents.  The second part (Names Part II: What Do You Mean By Progress?) discussed the illogic of the term progress or progressive when used to promote political movement [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussed the term &#8220;choice&#8221; as used by abortion proponents.  The second part (Names Part II: What Do You Mean By Progress?) discussed the illogic of the term progress or progressive when used to promote political movement [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Names Part I: The Illogic Of The Term Pro-Choice by Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part III: A Dissident By Any Other Name&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/17/the-term-pro-choice/#comment-3786</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part III: A Dissident By Any Other Name&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the third of a three part series. The first part (Names Part I: The Illogic Of The Term Pro-Choice) discussed the term &#8220;choice&#8221; as used by abortion proponents.  The second part (Names [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is the third of a three part series. The first part (Names Part I: The Illogic Of The Term Pro-Choice) discussed the term &#8220;choice&#8221; as used by abortion proponents.  The second part (Names [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Names Part I: The Illogic Of The Term Pro-Choice by Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part II: What Do You Mean By Progress?</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/17/the-term-pro-choice/#comment-3770</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyrie Eleison &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Names Part II: What Do You Mean By Progress?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is part two of a three part post.  Follow the link to Part I: Illogic of the term &#8220;pro-choice&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is part two of a three part post.  Follow the link to Part I: Illogic of the term &#8220;pro-choice&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Names Part I: The Illogic Of The Term Pro-Choice by Christina</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/17/the-term-pro-choice/#comment-3761</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real hoot is that they refer to abortion as "reproductive choice" -- ignoring the fact that abortion is something that you do AFTER having reproduced.

I'm told that the logic behind it is that abortion involves the reproductive organs, therefore "reproductive health" is an appropriate term.

By the same logic, you could call the gas chamber a "respiratory health center" -- after all, it involves the respiratory organs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real hoot is that they refer to abortion as &#8220;reproductive choice&#8221; &#8212; ignoring the fact that abortion is something that you do AFTER having reproduced.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m told that the logic behind it is that abortion involves the reproductive organs, therefore &#8220;reproductive health&#8221; is an appropriate term.</p>
<p>By the same logic, you could call the gas chamber a &#8220;respiratory health center&#8221; &#8212; after all, it involves the respiratory organs!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abortion Survivor Message To Obama by Christina</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/16/abortion-survivor-message-to-obama/#comment-3722</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's gotta be as scary for Barak Obama as it was for Pat Schroeder: a fetus with attitude.

But Gianna was lucky. A nurse recognized her as a baby, not just a fetus ex-utero, and sent her to the NICU.

It is in the case of &lt;a href="http://realchoice.0catch.com/library/weekly/aa110307a.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ximenia Renearts&lt;/a&gt; that we more clearly see Obama's attitude in action. Ximenia's mother underwent an abortion, thought her fetus was dead, then showed up at a hospital in pain. The staff at the hospital elected to respect her choice, to refrain from further burdening her. They stuck the fetus in a bedpan. They left the fetus, cold and alone, in a closet. It wasn't until another hospital employee mistook the fetus for a baby that care was sought.

Ximenia's adoptive parents sued on her behalf, arguing that since she'd been born alive, she was a baby and entitled to care.

BC Minister of Health, Michelle Stewart, was dismissive of the issue of infants born live during abortions, commenting, "As you know, this Ministry is very much in favor of giving women choices about their reproductive health." British Columbia's Chief Coroner Larry Campbell included a letter in a report on such live births, and dismissed them as to be expected in abortion and therefore outside the purview of BC coroners, who only get involved if a death is "unexpected".

This is the stand Obama took. That providing care for babies like Ximenia was too much of a burden on the mother's choice.

If you're okay with that -- if you think that the wrongdoing was by the people who provided Ximenia with care, not by the ones who left her in a bedpan to die -- then by all means, vote for Barak Obama.

As for Ximenia herself, she is too profoundly disabled to speak out. About anything. Which is lucky for Obama. One less fetus with attitude to challenge his assertion that the proper thing to do with them is stick them in a closet and wait for them to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s gotta be as scary for Barak Obama as it was for Pat Schroeder: a fetus with attitude.</p>
<p>But Gianna was lucky. A nurse recognized her as a baby, not just a fetus ex-utero, and sent her to the NICU.</p>
<p>It is in the case of <a href="http://realchoice.0catch.com/library/weekly/aa110307a.htm" rel="nofollow">Ximenia Renearts</a> that we more clearly see Obama&#8217;s attitude in action. Ximenia&#8217;s mother underwent an abortion, thought her fetus was dead, then showed up at a hospital in pain. The staff at the hospital elected to respect her choice, to refrain from further burdening her. They stuck the fetus in a bedpan. They left the fetus, cold and alone, in a closet. It wasn&#8217;t until another hospital employee mistook the fetus for a baby that care was sought.</p>
<p>Ximenia&#8217;s adoptive parents sued on her behalf, arguing that since she&#8217;d been born alive, she was a baby and entitled to care.</p>
<p>BC Minister of Health, Michelle Stewart, was dismissive of the issue of infants born live during abortions, commenting, &#8220;As you know, this Ministry is very much in favor of giving women choices about their reproductive health.&#8221; British Columbia&#8217;s Chief Coroner Larry Campbell included a letter in a report on such live births, and dismissed them as to be expected in abortion and therefore outside the purview of BC coroners, who only get involved if a death is &#8220;unexpected&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is the stand Obama took. That providing care for babies like Ximenia was too much of a burden on the mother&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re okay with that &#8212; if you think that the wrongdoing was by the people who provided Ximenia with care, not by the ones who left her in a bedpan to die &#8212; then by all means, vote for Barak Obama.</p>
<p>As for Ximenia herself, she is too profoundly disabled to speak out. About anything. Which is lucky for Obama. One less fetus with attitude to challenge his assertion that the proper thing to do with them is stick them in a closet and wait for them to die.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Motives In Relating To God by Christopher</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/12/motives-in-relating-to-god/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob
GREAT POST!

Perfect way of explaining, true contrition- (is it equal to an act of perfect contrition, I don't know...Possibly)
and atrrition- Good enough for the Sacrament of Penance.

I get accused from the accuser quiet often to think that im not properly disposed for confession.
This post was perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob<br />
GREAT POST!</p>
<p>Perfect way of explaining, true contrition- (is it equal to an act of perfect contrition, I don&#8217;t know&#8230;Possibly)<br />
and atrrition- Good enough for the Sacrament of Penance.</p>
<p>I get accused from the accuser quiet often to think that im not properly disposed for confession.<br />
This post was perfect</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Fallacy Of The Abortion Argument by paladin</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/06/abortion-argument/#comment-3635</link>
		<dc:creator>paladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the good fight!  :)

In Christ,
Brian

P.S.  Good blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good fight!  <img src='http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In Christ,<br />
Brian</p>
<p>P.S.  Good blog!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Catholic Vote by RobK</title>
		<link>http://kaiserfam.com/kyrieeleison/2008/09/10/the-catholic-vote/#comment-3622</link>
		<dc:creator>RobK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Chris!  I wish I had seen that connection before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Chris!  I wish I had seen that connection before.</p>
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